Ok man. I offered plenty of articles for you to read through, but obviously sexism is just a thing of the past and is not relevant today at all.
I’ve only been a woman experiencing this for over 40 years, but whatever. Have a nice day ✌️
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The short answer: sexism and money
The long answer:
Sexism: Women’s clothing is seen from an aesthetic view and not a utility view. Women’s pockets give us independence and since women were seen as property for so long, we did not need pockets to hold our items. Men’s clothing is about utility and practicality because men need to hold important items in their day to day. Women’s clothing is seen as just about fashion because women just want to be pretty, which reflects how some view women’s place in the world “be pretty, attract man, find husband, make babies”. Fewer pockets means women have to carry more with our hands which leads to less freedom of movement and less independence.
Money: Fashion companies make tens of billions selling women purses. If women had real pockets, we may not need purses. This is also why fast fashion is aimed at women, our clothing is of lesser quality so we are required to buy clothing more frequently. Women’s clothes are considered a loss leader to sell more cheap accessories.
The thing is, instead of arguing that women don’t really want pockets, you should listen and acknowledge what we are asking for. Times are changing, pockets are becoming larger in women’s clothes because women are demanding them, because we are being more selective and purchasing the few options with pockets that we have. Not as many companies are taking advantage of that ask because they want to sell purses, but the change is happening. You should also be advocating for that change.
The book I linked to above goes into great detail about the history of pockets in general, then provides information on why women’s pockets not only don’t exist as they should, but have actually been taken away from us as we gained independence (during WW2 when women had to work because men were fighting, women’s clothing had more pockets). If you don’t want to read the book, here are a number of shorter articles that provide the same information.
https://lifestyle.howstuffworks.com/style/fashion/trends-looks/pockets-womens-clothes.htm
https://luxuryandfamous.com/why-do-women-not-have-pockets-in-pants/
https://mamafashionista.com/why-dont-womens-clothes-have-pockets/
https://fashionmagazine.com/style/womens-pockets/
Great quotes in the above article: Though perhaps no one has put it better than Indiana University professor Christopher Todd Matthews, who writes in the academic article “Form and Deformity: The Trouble With Victorian Pockets” that Victorian women were told that they “had four external bulges already — two breasts and two hips — and a money pocket inside their dress would make an ungainly fifth.”
“Essentially: Men are required to act and therefore need practical clothing. Women are expected to simply appear and be watched — their beauty prioritized above all else. And these outdated gender ideals are still being sewn directly into our clothing”
https://www.thelist.com/176777/the-real-reason-womens-clothes-rarely-has-pockets/
I disagree. Women’s pants with pockets will sell just as well as, if not better than, women’s pants with fake pockets because at the end of the day, there is no difference in pants with vs without except in very limited cases like specific styles of business attire. The pants will sell because women want to wear pants and we buy pants available to us.
There is no good reason at all for fake pockets to even exist. These companies do this so they can force women to buy purses, an extra item that causes women to spend more money. It’s sexism. That’s all there is to it.
I highly recommend a book called Pockets: An Intimate History of How We Keep Things Close by Hannah Carlson. Women have been denied pockets for centuries and business today are just continuing that.
Just walk away and don’t be a jerk, it’s not that hard jesus christ.
You would be surprised how many individuals find this too difficult lol
Yeah, I mean it would be nice for folks to read the rules, but as long as they don’t get nasty when being asked to not comment, it’s not an issue. From what I see hanging out there, it doesn’t seem to be a big deal most of the time. Mods just say their thing and the convo moves on. If the community were marked as private, many women, myself included, likely never would have found that space.
No problem! I totally understand what you mean.
Gym clothes specifically are rough for me because I can’t do all the high waisted stuff. The tight fit presses against an old surgery scar of mine and causes really painful cramping. Finding gym clothes can be so much fun! /s
Agreed. More options would be better, but companies are only into making cheap fast fashion so we have to buy clothes more often.
Just buy bigger pants?
This doesn’t actually solve the issue. Buying bigger pants means the waist doesn’t fit, so you have to wear a belt. Which is fine. But when I wear pants with a waist that is too big, it bunches in places and is uncomfortable when I sit down and lean back. It can also cause weird gapping in the waistband that leaves underwear exposed for everyone to see.
This is why I don’t just “buy men’s pants and wear a belt”, like I’ve been told to do over and over again. Men’s clothes don’t fit my body and the excess fabric bunches causing uncomfortable pressure points on my back and waist. I already have enough back issues, I don’t want pants that cause even more.
The best solution is to give women more options. I know it’s “the trend” for women to wear tight fitting clothes, however, there are significant number of women that don’t like all of our clothes to be tight. Clothing companies would still make money, but they prefer to make cheap fast fashion garbage that falls apart quickly and forces women to buy clothes more often. Instead women get told that we only want to wear tight clothes because we want to be sexy and we since have no pockets we have to buy purses or we get told we look frumpy and gross in baggy clothes.
I think it’s fine that people accidentally comment and mods have to do the extra work, it allows the community to stay open for women to be able to find. That was how I found it.
The easiest solution is, when a man gets told that it’s a space for women, he can just say “Oops, sorry about that” and move on, that is how most men respond when asked to not comment there. Its the men who have awful reactions and get argumentative that since a post came up in all, they should be allowed to join and comment whenever they want. Which is just silly.
lol Yeah it happens. They don’t so much defend them, more argue with women that it’s our fault for buying pants with small pockets, even though there aren’t many options. Or since women like our pants so tight, pockets would look wrong to stuff them full, when all we want is to be able to carry a few items like ID, credit card, and a small amount of cash. And there is always someone who links to a search for “women’s pants deep pockets” on websites like Old Navy or The Gap thrown around like that actually means those pants have deep pockets, when they frequently have those useless half pockets. Or that women should just wear men’s pants even though they don’t fit women’s bodies and are uncomfortable.
It’s a misunderstanding of what women are actually asking for, so instead of admitting they don’t understand, they double down and argue with women that we don’t really want that 🤷♀️
I appreciate you posting this kind of stuff!
Lemmy really is dudebro land
I feel this every time there is a post or comment about how women should have bigger pockets in our jeans and pants.
This is me with my bunnies, spiders, and insects lol
You are correct, there are men who are feminists, but this comic isn’t about them. Men who are feminists would not say “I don’t care” at an open women’s conference, they would join in and allow women to have their space at the closed conference. Both the open and closed conferences have valid reasons for existing. Not all conferences are about recruitment.
This comic points out the hypocrisy of men who say they don’t care about feminism until they are excluded from women’s spaces, then they complain about not being allowed into any space they want. Sometimes women like to have our own spaces to speak about our feelings and experiences with other women and that’s ok.
I think men should have their own spaces like that too. A place for men to talk about their feelings and positive aspects of masculinity without it devolving into the toxic masculinity we see from a lot of influencers who focus on dominating women and body dysmorphia. A place where men can build positive friendships and community, a place to support other men.
Oh gosh no, it’s not like that. It’s more like that feeling when you get really really frustrated at something and you get a tense and angry feeling in your chest. That is what it’s like sometimes when I look at my bunny because she’s very small, soft, and extremely cute.
2·14 days agoOk, in the first picture, wtf is up with the legs on that horse on the right. They curl outward like a frog or something lol
I feel that kind of violence every time I look at my tiny girl bunny. She’s so cute I want to hit something lol
Oh shit. I love this one too then!!
I do see the similarities in the middle one. Probably a good idea because it is recognizable enough already.
I like the top middle because mohawk hair. I like the bottom middle because as a person from the US, I’ve known far too many white pride dillholes, so I love seeing them get stomped.
Off topic, but I love the top one and the middle bottom. Both are kick ass!
I’ll like HP again when she’s dead.
And if her estate doesn’t donate to the same kind of heinous organizations that she does
Honestly, I provided the links because I was in a rush to go to a book crawl. I was hoping you were curious enough to read them out of genuine interest because there is plenty of relevant information there. But I saw your other comments on this post and I have more important things to do than waste my time with a misogynistic troll. I’m going to go read and take pictures of spiders.
You have yourself a wonderful day ✌️