• TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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    You also aren’t looking for it apparently? Physicians for National Healthcare Program is a group of over 20 thousand physicians advocating for a national healthcare program.

    We’re not politicians, we don’t have anymore power than you do, and we are all in the same boat. My healthcare gets worse and more expensive every year as well. Plus, changing over to a medicare for all programs would save me dozens of hours of paperwork a week.

    Most physicians under about 40 would love a socialized healthcare network. The people older than that are typically stuck in the “I did my time, now I want my reward mindset”. To get more people on board in the industry the largest hurdle would be lowering the cost of education, and doing away with the low wage residency programs that work you to the bone for nothing. Without addressing those while lowering wages, you’re basically asking providers to go into debt for the rest of their lives.

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      this is what you say to the public. behind closed doors, it’s always “national healthcare will be the end of our field and i will have to retire because I don’t want all those fucking medicare patients.”

      i may have the teensiest bit of professional experience i’m not sharing.

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        i may have the teensiest bit of professional experience i’m not sharing.

        Based on the rest of your comments in this thread, you may also be pulling shit out of your ass. So far, you’re giving the current US administration a run for its money in credibility.

        I know a couple doctors and have worked for multiple clinics and got to roam the back offices, and your assertions are nothing like what I experienced, even if I don’t have 123 graduate degrees that are #1 in all fields or whatever.

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          “i have one or two friends and have been in the back room so they watched their mouths they knew someone was there”

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            Lol, I’ve provided more credibility so far than you have. Keep telling us about the 9001 higher degrees you have

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        this is what you say to the public. behind closed doors

        Everyone knows physicians get together to scheme about our public image as soon as we finish our notes for the day…

        end of our field and i will have to retire because I don’t want all those fucking medicare patients."

        The vast majority of money spent in healthcare is from Medicare. Pretty much everyone but odd boutique clinics gladly take Medicare patients. It’s not the 90s anymore, CMS reimbursement is often higher than private insurance and comes with a lot less paperwork.

        may have the teensiest bit of professional experience i’m not sharing

        I’m sure you know best.

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      And there are tens of thousands of other providers who do NOT want pay cuts.

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        Well, yeah. In their minds they sacrificed a lot of time, money, sweat, and tears to earn a salary that can reimburse them for their hundreds of thousands of debt and decades of little to no pay.

        To fix medicine in America we are going to have to fix the education program. No other country pays physicians as much as the US, but no other country requires you to take out a fortune of loans to become a physician. The system is designed to pressure physicians into keeping the reward system going.

        I think if we initiated a student loan forgiveness program and did away with a residency program that was or designed for a time when you were able to use cocaine to get you through your day… A lot more physicians would be on board than there already are.

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          I see how student loan forgiveness and lowering the cost of education would help, but what’s actually wrong with the residency progam that makes you say to scrap it rather than rase the pay? As someone who knows next to nothing, isn’t it basically just a was for medical students to gain some experience and turn theoretical knowledge into practical knowledge?

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            It’s supposed to be for them to gain experience and turn theoretical knowledge into practical, however it’s mainly used as a cheap form of labour. The students make next to nothing and are often working/on call for 80 hours a week.

            They learn a lot, but past a certain point they aren’t retaining any knowledge, and worse can be dangerous to the patients. A lot of hospitals are basically run by mostly residents being guided by a handful of attending physicians.