• iamthetot@piefed.ca
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    To fulfill the third wish, the genie must ignore the first wish made. The first wish was to do the opposite of the second, so to fulfill the third wish, the genie must now ignore that command, and do not the opposite not the actual second wish. The second wish, now primed to be fulfilled in earnest, not opposite, was to not fulfill the third. But fulfilling the third is how we got into this situation in the first place, so if it’s not fulfilled anymore, we shouldn’t be in the state we’re in.

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      4 days ago

      To fulfill the third wish, the genie must ignore the first wish made.

      These were executed in serial, so the effects have already been committed. Ignoring the first wish at the end had no material effect, because it’s already been executed “flipping the second wish”.

      These commands would need to be actively looping before you encountered a runtime error. But the genie isn’t re-evaluating the wish stack after each wish.

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        Yeah the wording on “ignore” is not the same as “undo all effects of” or “rollback my first wish”

        Even so, I think it’s still just a no-op at the cost of 3 wishes.

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        I mean, we are talking about a magical genie that can alter the fabric of reality to grant wishes. I trust you can suspend disbelief that the genie cannot change the past to effect those changes.

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      This assumes that all the wishes are executed at once.

      Assume that there are two important points in a wish. The points of utterance and the point of execution. Wishes are executed as soon as possible. As soon as a wish is executed, it is no longer a wish. It simply is.

      Consider this sequence:

      Wish one is uttered but does not execute until wish two is uttered.

      Wish one executes as soon as wish two is uttered and wish two is modified.

      The modified wish two is executed as soon as wish three is uttered and modifies wish three.

      The modified wish three executes immediately, and wish one may be safely ignored as it has already been executed.

      See, it all depends on the assumptions around the mechanics of wishing. It’s pretty important to know the rules before you get started.

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        The punchline implies that assumption or parallel processing. It must because it’s inconsistent with the common rules of the myth. Wishes are commonly executed in series, not in parallel, which is impicit in the syntax of the first, second, and third wish. So that assumption of parallel wish processing isn’t even consistent with most of the language of the comic or with the final panel.

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          So you know how they say a joke is like a toad: it dies when you dissect it but you learn a lot in the process? Sometimes those toads fart dude.

      • iamthetot@piefed.ca
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        3 days ago

        My explanation does not at all assume all wishes are executed at once. It does assume that a magical genie with reality altering powers can change the past.