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I mean, if you’re punk and you aren’t rebelling, then you aren’t punk.
What about rebelling from rebelling?
That’s just confirming with extra steps
If you aren’t rebelling, are you actually punk?
Yeah, one of these things is not like the other.
If you’re only punk for the aesthetic, you’re not punk. Sorry not sorry.
Gatekeeping punk? That’s not very punk
Gatekeeping nazis out of punk spaces? Very punk.
Gatekeeping performative nepo babies out of class struggle? Also punk.
Conformism and obedience to unjust authorities are literally contrary to being punk by definition. If you allow those things, “punk” becomes meaningless, just a fad.
Dressing punk without acting punk is not punk.
Yeah was gonna say, one of these is actually true and it’s that punk is pretty inherently rebellious.
Which is why not rebelling is extra punk
Rebelling against the counterculture is so punk2
… we should call them “punk squares.”
I just can’t not read “Open Sussy”
that osussy got me 🥵
I tried getting in touch with my heritage and using OpenSUSE but it really doesn’t click with me. From the installer to the whoke YaST thing, others love it but I’m just a bad German.
I also don’t own a car or watch football so this tracks
I know you kid and I’m sure you a good German but:
SUSE started in 1994 according to Wikipedia. At the time, it was one of the only good and stable Linux distribution that you could reliably install anywhere without tweaking configuration files all over the place.
IIRC, all the previous distributions have been obsoleted once Ubuntu was available.
IIRC, all the previous distributions have been obsoleted once Ubuntu was available.
I mean,yes and no? At the time, Ubuntu made itself an extremely prolific and easy to start linux experience. The adaptations that ubuntu presented have been replicated in several other distros now, and Canonical have made questionable choices to the point where Mint seems like THE beginner/minimal config distro, the things that are universally acceptable from Ubuntu are being rolled back into debian, and mint itself is trying to go for a debian based version which is basically the same level of friendliness.
The installer’s partitioner and package selection can get a bit complicated, but imo it’s a pretty guided experience. You also don’t have to use YaST on OpenSUSE, it’s just a nice alternative to having to copy commands from some random tutorial, and it’s also being replaced: YAST is now Agama, Cockpit and Myrlyn on openSUSE
While the packages are a shitshow (missing depends, etc. (Edit: I had multiple problems with shotcut because of this and grew frustrated enough that I just use the Appimage now)), the TW is updated very often and is really stable, it’s on a level with fedora. Also the default firewall config is very strict, which is good.
Yes, the Yast installer is terrible and I had to do my encryption with ext4 (instead of BTRFS) manually in terminal, because the install would somehow break everything.
It’s a mixed bag, but as a disorganized person who doesn’t do regular updates and still likes to have new packages, I like it.
SuSe 7.1 was my first experience with Linux, I got a boxed copy with paper manuals and everything. It was glorious, I learned so much from that.
Ich benutze Arch, übrigens.
Ich nutze Bogen, bei dem Weg
Ich benutze Arsch… meistens um zu sitzen
*Bogen
Bin eher ein ratten-nächstenliebe Genießer
Nutzername prüft aus, ja-ja.
I always found that image to be funny. I’m Asian and I like math.
Been using it for like 3 years and it has been great. Really baffled how it is not more popular.
It’s a great European alternative.
Not German btw
Really baffled how it is not more popular.
The EU OS was looking for certain criteria, and this comparison table shows that there are some features they want that Open Suse lacks
Bis du deutch muss du ersma Rechtschreibung
Zangendeutsch
die Grammatik ist nicht wirklich besser
Tried it for pretty much that reason, turns out I hate its system GUI and can’t be arsed to learn a different package manager than apt (at least not if it’s not much faster and simpler than apt).
can’t be arsed to learn a different package manager than apt (at least not if it’s not much faster and simpler than apt).
based and ubuntu tutorial crutch pilled. Just like me 😭
I often use Debian, too!
I only use Debian, for everything. Gaming PC, work laptop, personal server, work servers - it truly is the universal operating system
What I don’t like about apt are the tools: What should I use? apt? apt-get? aptitude? In theory it shouldn’t matter… But I’m always confused. openSUSE has zypper and nothing else. Fedora has dnf and an alias for yum (for the old folks I guess). Both may not be faster but they are less confusing.
What should I use? apt? apt-get? aptitude?
that’s not where I’m confused. You just use apt until it doesn’t work for the specific command. The ubuntu “tutorials” sometimes use apt-get , but it’s meant to be outdated on current debian.
the fun part is knowing when to use dpkg
What should I use? apt? apt-get? aptitude?
The answer, of course, is
nala.
Fedora has dnf and an alias for yum (for the old folks I guess)
What he say fuck me for?
Use apt. I think apt-get and such are only kept around to be used in scripts or for backwards compatibility.
Not anymore. The latest release of apt stabilized the command line
IMO, only reason to ever use anything but apt at this point is if you want to process the output in a script. Used to be a bit more murky because there were actually a few apt-get commands that weren’t available through apt.
Either way, I learned it this way when I could still be arsed to fuck around with Linux distros for fun, and now I’m kinda stuck with it.
Both yum and dnf are wrappers of rpm (the CLI tool, not the format)… Similar to apt and dpkg.
It’s either that or leather socks.
I remember the mapping stockings to distros meme was missing opensuse and someone suggested it be socks with sandals.
https://lemmy.world/post/38457151/20364315


Noticed you added a link - I was there, 3000 years ago, and I offered my wisdom in that thread too:

I saw when I went back for the link
No, openSUSE is this (chapless lederhosen optional):

Ah the meme went this route. Could’ve been worse
I mean, for someone who hasn’t even touched the livecd (usb?) version of open suse or its variants; nor spoken barely any of a language I spent five years studying and got a B in, I sure make quite a few jokes at the expense of germans and open suse.
the worst of it being :
https://lemmy.world/post/43247390/22192775
Why is it whenever I look inside a distro, I see one of you three?
Suse: exists
Nimm dein Handtuch und fahr zurück nach Deutschland (take your towel and go back to germany)
Sidenote : I’m the world’s shittiest polygot. I speak about 2 and a half languages, and forgot an entire language that I learnt. And no, it’s not two languages proficiently and one shittily, I struggle with 2 and speak one fluently… and the one I speak is a language I learnt as a foreigner.
At least I can say “I forgot more foreign languages than most people bothered learning”
Ich dachte Polyglott ist man ab 7 Sprachen
🤷
EDIT : To be fair to me, I did say I was a shitty polygot, AND the languages I do speak come from largely seperate lingusitic families; turkish (Altaic) , spanish (romance) , english (germanic…mostly?). It’s not like I said I speak danish, swedish, norwegian, german,english, spanish and portuguese.
Spanish, Galician, Portuguese, Asturian, catalan, Valencian, Balearean and Andalusian. Fuck yeah… I mean… venga vamos!
Joder tio
Arrelgada para uthted
“Joder tío” is more like “damn, dude”, or “aw, fuck” not “fuck yeah”
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rent free. jeez man, take a break.
also, not every box needs your text in it.
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