You are being absolutely ridiculous. VPNs may be de jure forbidden in China (idk about this even), but de-facto they’re absolutely allowed, nobody is prosecuted for using them, and every young Chinese person can tell you this. You haven’t talked with a Chinese living in China in your entire life.
If it were illegal, that would be a huge infraction to FREEDOM®🦅🦅
Wow, you solved geopolitics! Now that you bravely exposed your point of view, both US and China will stop the AI race!
The post, and hence the comment to which I’m responding, is about China vs US. You may not like the comparisons I’m making because you love your status quo of western dominance, but they’re entirely relevant to the post.
Sure, buddy, everyone who reinforces your worldview from your limited sample is a true Chinese testimony, but the 99% of Chinese who choose to stay In China are the brainwashed hivemind.
The original comment is specifically about comparing China to the west, hence discussing “who should win the AI race”. I’m responding to that comparison
China has an industrial base that can no longer be competed with. This is the winning recipe, so they will likely control the world.
I fundamentally agree. I don’t think it will be direct control, but I think China will have a lot more political power in the coming decades.
So how well all of humanity fares, depends on how the leadership in China decides to treat u
Seeing how China has no recent history of violence and hasn’t participated in wars for the past 40ish years, I’d say it’s much better than the warmongering USA empire self-declaring itself “the world police”. We’ve seen how well that worked for Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, Libya, Vietnam, Korea, Laos, Cambodia…
If we end up with say, a chinese Trump, we are done for
Thankfully China has a communist party in government, and no fascist parties like the Republicans or the slightly less fascist Democrats.
We should invest everything we can into ensuring the later
Surely the warmongering and genocidal western countries, responsible for the almost total extermination of native Americans, the enslavement of Africa and Asia, and invaders during WW2 (biggest armed conflict in history) aren’t the ones most indicated to make decisions in this regard.
You’re not quoting my leader, I’m a Spaniard.
So now “violence bad”? I thought y’all are advocating for Americans to overthow the US regime
Violence in itself isn’t great, but it can be justified depending on the degree and the goals. Seeing how China saved 800 million people from poverty over 30 years, I think some violence consequence of disturbances isn’t unjustifiable, although can be criticized. The US on the other hand murders 500.000 people abroad yearly since 1970 through economic sanctions and blockades, so I think violence to remove this regime could be justified.
The original comment I responded to was comparing the west to China and saying that the reason why China shouldn’t win is because it’s more repressive. I explained how that’s not the case, so me comparing to the west is relevant in this instance.
I dont quite understand your second paragraph, care to explain?
The original comment I responded to was saying “we don’t want China to win because it’s very repressive”. If the west turns out to be at least as repressive, this argument disappears, which was my entire point.
I’ve directed the Master’s and Bachelor’s thesis of several Chinese students here in Europe, and literally all of them except one have returned to China because life there is better. The one who stayed, personally told me that he used to be Chinese opposition, but after some years in Europe seeing the shitshow we have and the impending rise of fascism, he’s not as critical of the Chinese government anymore.
Your sample is biased: you’ve only spoken to the Chinese émigrés, so you’re suffering from survivor bias.
Hah, you’re so freaking original, mate! I bet nobody ever here heard of that one!
But sure: on June 3rd, 1989, after weeks of protests in Beijing (not in all of China), some violent western-funded protestors murdered some PLA soldiers. Violence ensued (funnily enough outside Tiananmen Square, despite what western state propaganda tells you) and some people died in clashes between police/military and protestors. Ultimately, a western-backed colour revolution was averted, and thankfully the Chinese government still exists, providing the world with 95ish% of the solar photovoltaic production :)
Unlike western media, famously owned by altruistic people like sociopath Palantir collaborator Zuckerberg, or Twitter being owned by a literal sieg-heiling Nazi.
You can see the censorship by opening Russia Today in the EU and seeing how all Russian media has been banned, such freedom of speech and anti censorship in the west, threatening to ban Tiktok because it’s not controlled by American corpos! Surely no censorship on Reddit either or YouTube!! It’s literally all projection
China has higher government approval rates than any western country. The whole “Chinese surveillance state” myth stems from western media propaganda. Go ask a Chinese person about the dreaded “social credit score” system and they literally don’t know what it is, it’s just western lies. The west has literal journalist prisoners like Assange, the UK is enjailing people for supporting Palestine, and heroes like Snowden had to migrate to other countries due to political persecution for revealing the depth of the western surveillance state. It’s all projection with China.
Because we are US vassal states without democracy or political independence. I don’t see how you honestly believe that Spanish or Portuguese people, on the opposite corner of the continent, would democratically want to go further into defunding hospitals to buy more bombs while Europe happily collaborates in genocide in Palestine.
Didn’t the pro-Russian candidate in Romania get removed from elections? Not the most openly democratic example in my opinion.
the remaining 51% can form an alliance to shut them out of government
This can happen with leftist parties too, and as a matter of fact we see it happening in France, with the most voted party being "cordon sanitaire"d. Again, there is no functional democracy if the policy applied over 15 different countries, regardless of party elected, is indistinguishable.
And why does that matter? If we see uniform policy results in the EU-wide, regardless of coalition in power, where’s the democracy?
The problem isn’t the two party system. The “perfectly democratic” EU countries are electing fascists en-masse, and when they’re not, the socialdemocrats that replace them apply similar policy. There is no EU country free from austerity policy, rising military budgets, undermining of worker rights, rising of retirement age, support to the genocidal Israeli entity and complete inaction in terms of affordability of housing, energy and food. The problem is capitalism, not “first past the post” or other technicalities of electoral systems. They all produce the same outcomes, so the root of the problem is deeper.
Literal study: “most of rhe propaganda on social media comes from private companies”
Lemmitors “ThE pRoBlEm Is RuZzIa”
Keep blaming a third country for all your endogenous problems.
Ok, can you please bring me some reading or source at all on Chinese government lies regarding energy infrastructure in the country?
From the article:
This person was not “using a VPN”, he was lying to the government about his working status and working for an overseas firm illegally.