AbuTahir@lemm.ee to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · edit-21 month agoApple just proved AI "reasoning" models like Claude, DeepSeek-R1, and o3-mini don't actually reason at all. They just memorize patterns really well.archive.isexternal-linkmessage-square347fedilinkarrow-up1875arrow-down144file-text
arrow-up1831arrow-down1external-linkApple just proved AI "reasoning" models like Claude, DeepSeek-R1, and o3-mini don't actually reason at all. They just memorize patterns really well.archive.isAbuTahir@lemm.ee to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · edit-21 month agomessage-square347fedilinkfile-text
minus-squarereksas@sopuli.xyzlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up39arrow-down2·1 month agodoes ANY model reason at all?
minus-square4am@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up35arrow-down1·1 month agoNo, and to make that work using the current structures we use for creating AI models we’d probably need all the collective computing power on earth at once.
minus-squareMiles O'Brien@startrek.websitelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up8·1 month ago… So you’re saying there’s a chance?
minus-squareRefurbished Refurbisher@lemmy.sdf.orglinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3·1 month agoThat sounds really floppy.
minus-squareauraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up8·edit-21 month agoDefine reason. Like humans? Of course not. They lack intent, awareness, and grounded meaning. They don’t “understand” problems, they generate token sequences.
minus-squareMrLLM@ani.sociallinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·1 month agoI think I do. Might be an illusion, though.
does ANY model reason at all?
No, and to make that work using the current structures we use for creating AI models we’d probably need all the collective computing power on earth at once.
… So you’re saying there’s a chance?
10^36 flops to be exact
That sounds really floppy.
Define reason.
Like humans? Of course not. They lack intent, awareness, and grounded meaning. They don’t “understand” problems, they generate token sequences.
as it is defined in the article
I think I do. Might be an illusion, though.