Advertisers are essentially subsidizing many businesses. Costs are higher than you think and most products we enjoy are expensive.
Yes, there is FOSS, but you’re essentially fucking lucky that people that work on those want to do this from the passion they have. Most people don’t, and won’t, do shit like that for free. Hell, look at many here on the internet that want products for free and are unwilling to pay or even do minimal donations for things that they already like.
Like it or not, most people want to be fucking paid for their time and FOSS, as great as it can be, is not the norm for most talent. We can make counter arguments and hate on capitalism, but that is the reality, and until entire cultures change then this is what it is and advertisers are sort of necessary evil in most cases.
No but the end of internet advertising will basically be the end of many internet professions that are already struggling. Like writers and editors. So only hobbyists and the lucky few who have enough fame to get paid via Patreon will be making certain websites.
I just tried to sign up for Peertube because this comment reminded me
The only site with any videos on it (Fediverse.TV) doesn’t allow signups. Neither does the default instance (Peertube.TV).
Tragically, Web3 cryptoshit MAHA platform “Odyssey” was much more functional when I tried to use it, before realizing what kind of content dominated there.
EDIT: Finally found one that let me create an account:
Why create an account?
As you’ve probably noticed, creating an account is not necessary to watch videos on Tube Free.
However, creating an account on Tube Free will allow you to:
Comment on videos
Subscribe to channels and receive notifications of new videos
you can, there are hundreds of nodes. to be fair there are probably 10’s of thousands of videos, but … they’re almost all poor quality or just uninteresting
If all my time there i’ve found a couple music channels and a couple of linux people. There’s no money in it, so none of the creators put any real time into anything over there.
Literally everything on the internet is paid for by advertising. And without it every site you rely upon will either become a subscription service or simply disappear because it is expensive to run a website.
They pay to run ads because it makes them look better for investors who are all stupid people who have inherited JUST enough money to keep them from from ever failing at making money. More ads mean more stock value.
That’s why there are MORE ads than ever even though the number of viewer-per-ad is plummeting.
Its just one more example of the infinite money printing machines that are about to break the world. All the obviously ruinous bad stuff that is being allowed to happen despite the constant warning sirens is tied to these runaway money printing schemes.
Well goodbye the internet, what advertiser is going to pay anything if they know the majority of user are bots.
Hence the push for os level user identification and why the Zuck is behind the push.
Are advertisers absolutely necessary?
Advertisers are essentially subsidizing many businesses. Costs are higher than you think and most products we enjoy are expensive.
Yes, there is FOSS, but you’re essentially fucking lucky that people that work on those want to do this from the passion they have. Most people don’t, and won’t, do shit like that for free. Hell, look at many here on the internet that want products for free and are unwilling to pay or even do minimal donations for things that they already like.
Like it or not, most people want to be fucking paid for their time and FOSS, as great as it can be, is not the norm for most talent. We can make counter arguments and hate on capitalism, but that is the reality, and until entire cultures change then this is what it is and advertisers are sort of necessary evil in most cases.
My question is whether websites need to be owned by businesses.
No but the end of internet advertising will basically be the end of many internet professions that are already struggling. Like writers and editors. So only hobbyists and the lucky few who have enough fame to get paid via Patreon will be making certain websites.
Tbf that’s how it was a couple decades ago. Also, writers and editors aren’t internet professions. They can go back to newspapers.
Lots of FOSS developers are paid by companies. At least people working on the major projects.
Even all those websites that are serving content illegally, like porn and game pirating sites, only can afford to stay up because of advertising.
It can’t cost that much to host a piracy website. Worst case scenario, we go to Telegram.
Few online platforms flourish without advertisers. Practically all our content on lemmy comes from sites with advertising.
I’m sure people would create content even if they didn’t make anything. They did in the past.
mmhmm, give us your top 10 Peertube reccomendations :)
Top 5 recommendations uploaded on YouTube before monetization:
The trick with that was that there was no monetization yet. That cat’s out of the bag.
Seriously, there are multiple platforms out there with no monetization, and they’re hardly used.
I just tried to sign up for Peertube because this comment reminded me
The only site with any videos on it (Fediverse.TV) doesn’t allow signups. Neither does the default instance (Peertube.TV).
Tragically, Web3 cryptoshit MAHA platform “Odyssey” was much more functional when I tried to use it, before realizing what kind of content dominated there.
EDIT: Finally found one that let me create an account:
…So even with an account, I can’t upload videos?
you can, there are hundreds of nodes. to be fair there are probably 10’s of thousands of videos, but … they’re almost all poor quality or just uninteresting
If all my time there i’ve found a couple music channels and a couple of linux people. There’s no money in it, so none of the creators put any real time into anything over there.
There’s tons of creators on YouTube who post content without receiving any money just for the joy of the game.
well, i’ve posted quite a lot of original memes here.
and thank you for your service!
Maybe advertisers are bots too?
Yes because people are cheap.
Not necessarily. Sometimes people just can’t afford to pay websites.
Literally everything on the internet is paid for by advertising. And without it every site you rely upon will either become a subscription service or simply disappear because it is expensive to run a website.
Why is it so expensive to run a website?
Scale.
Running a website is very cheap, like $5 a month
Running a huge website with millions of users is expensive
it depends a lot on the website
1 user on peertube consumes more bandwidth than 100 users on lemmy
Also salaries. Like the people who make the content also need to get paid.
Because bandwidth isn’t free.
Server hosting - is my understanding. It takes a lot of resources to host a site.
Maybe getting rid of those invasive ads is a good thing.
They pay to run ads because it makes them look better for investors who are all stupid people who have inherited JUST enough money to keep them from from ever failing at making money. More ads mean more stock value.
That’s why there are MORE ads than ever even though the number of viewer-per-ad is plummeting.
Its just one more example of the infinite money printing machines that are about to break the world. All the obviously ruinous bad stuff that is being allowed to happen despite the constant warning sirens is tied to these runaway money printing schemes.