Yes. In response to your derogatory remarks. How does that make me have a god complex?
Of course being a doctor is more interesting. And within medicine I also chose a specialty that interested me. I didn’t get the one I initially chose, but I did into the one I am doing now, and in the end I’m happy with it.
Point is: you can’t tell if certain jobs are boring because you’ve never tried them. You’ve never even seen what their day is like. So you’re making shitty assumptions based on your shitty prejudice.
If you can’t put two and two together here, I’m not sure it’s my intelligence that should be under question.
That sounds a lot like something that someone who doesn’t actually have a point would say. So, please humour me.
Idk if you’ve heard about these things called taxpayers
You start a sentence with that and expect me to read the rest of the gibberish a fleshy AI has written down? Again, showing you’re dumber than the AI that’s about to replace you.
Yes. In response to your derogatory remarks. How does that make me have a god complex?
Which remarks exactly seemed derogatory to you?
Of course being a doctor is more interesting
Then why didn’t you choose a more meaningful job instead of the interesting one? You could be doing something to patients in person. It’s the nurses and orderlies* who do most of the actual work in a hospital, from what I’ve seen the few times I’ve been in one.
Could it be that you found those jobs boring? Not challenging you in the right way? Or… Why else did you not take one of those roles, given that they’re, by some standards, more meaningful than that of a doctor? An orderly in particular requires much less education too, you could’ve jumped straight to helping people if that was the metric by which you chose your job at all.
That sounds a lot like something that someone who doesn’t actually have a point would say. So, please humour me.
You: “Good, let 'em ruin themselves, we need the people in healthcare and education anyway.”
Millions of people are losing their jobs worldwide, many more have studied for 3 years to get a degree they won’t ever be able to use. You’re saying that’s a good thing. Why? Because in 5-10 years time, some companies will go under for laying people off today? Those people need jobs now, and the healthcare system isn’t going to need that many, especially since much of the western world can’t afford its current healthcare systems right now.
Somehow a bunch of people losing their jobs is good because 2% of them can get jobs in your industry.
And yet I’m the one “praising AI”. I’m the one saying that capitalists will fight to replace every worker they can with AI, you’re the one saying it’s a good thing.
You start a sentence with that and expect me to read the rest of the gibberish
Pardon me, you just seemed ignorant of the whole issue of government efficiency being a thing taxpayers are usually looking for. Especially since, you know, taxes are actively being raised in some countries to be able to even afford the current spending.
E.g here in Estonia, in the last 5 years we’ve had the income tax raised, VAT raised twice, and the price of medical visits (ER visits and first visit per case of a specialty doctor, but not GP visits) went from 5 euros to 20 euros. Oh and we got a nice new vehicle tax (not a bad thing in of itself) that comes with a new registration tax that also applies retroactively to old cars if ownership is transferred (can be a couple hundred to a few thousand euros to transfer ownership of a car worth 500 for an example). And we’re STILL running a deficit, something Estonia didn’t really do in the past.
As a result, different government departments are always trying to save money whereever possible. That includes things like having more students per teacher so that fewer teachers need to be paid. And this is Estonia, our government debt is just under 25% of GDP. If you take for an example Belgium, a nation with much higher taxes, that also brings in tons of income from all the visiting MEPs who spend money there but get paid by their own governments… Their debt is over 100% of GDP. Finland is going to be over 100% too. There’s no set debt to GDP ratio that’s bad, but the higher the debt, the higher the interest payments.
Doctors being replaced with AI doesn’t mean they’re going to be all replaced at once, nor are they going to be explicitly “replaced” by AI like software engineers. Rather, individual doctors are going to be expected to do more because “you now have AI helping you”. Fewer young doctors will be hired because data will show that having X% fewer doctors of specialty Y per capita would result in only Z% fewer positive patient outcomes. Then in a few years, as AI tools get better, even fewer doctors will be needed. Etc. 2 years ago already we had an article here saying the national health insurance system found ways to save 21 million a year using “digital technologies and workforce reform”. They’re looking to either save another 100 million a year, or raise it via more taxation. Easiest way to do the former is to lay people off.
If it seems to you that I ever implied that AI is going to replace doctors and teachers WITHOUT affecting quality of care and education… Sorry, no, that’s not what I meant. I meant the savings are going to be so significant that government will do it despite the reduction in quality. It’ll be deemed as “good enough”.
Call me a pessimist or whatever, but one thing governments and corporations have in common is that they like cutting costs at the expense of the common folk.
Yes. In response to your derogatory remarks. How does that make me have a god complex?
Of course being a doctor is more interesting. And within medicine I also chose a specialty that interested me. I didn’t get the one I initially chose, but I did into the one I am doing now, and in the end I’m happy with it.
Point is: you can’t tell if certain jobs are boring because you’ve never tried them. You’ve never even seen what their day is like. So you’re making shitty assumptions based on your shitty prejudice.
That sounds a lot like something that someone who doesn’t actually have a point would say. So, please humour me.
You start a sentence with that and expect me to read the rest of the gibberish a fleshy AI has written down? Again, showing you’re dumber than the AI that’s about to replace you.
Which remarks exactly seemed derogatory to you?
Then why didn’t you choose a more meaningful job instead of the interesting one? You could be doing something to patients in person. It’s the nurses and orderlies* who do most of the actual work in a hospital, from what I’ve seen the few times I’ve been in one.
Could it be that you found those jobs boring? Not challenging you in the right way? Or… Why else did you not take one of those roles, given that they’re, by some standards, more meaningful than that of a doctor? An orderly in particular requires much less education too, you could’ve jumped straight to helping people if that was the metric by which you chose your job at all.
You: “Good, let 'em ruin themselves, we need the people in healthcare and education anyway.”
Millions of people are losing their jobs worldwide, many more have studied for 3 years to get a degree they won’t ever be able to use. You’re saying that’s a good thing. Why? Because in 5-10 years time, some companies will go under for laying people off today? Those people need jobs now, and the healthcare system isn’t going to need that many, especially since much of the western world can’t afford its current healthcare systems right now.
Somehow a bunch of people losing their jobs is good because 2% of them can get jobs in your industry.
And yet I’m the one “praising AI”. I’m the one saying that capitalists will fight to replace every worker they can with AI, you’re the one saying it’s a good thing.
Pardon me, you just seemed ignorant of the whole issue of government efficiency being a thing taxpayers are usually looking for. Especially since, you know, taxes are actively being raised in some countries to be able to even afford the current spending.
E.g here in Estonia, in the last 5 years we’ve had the income tax raised, VAT raised twice, and the price of medical visits (ER visits and first visit per case of a specialty doctor, but not GP visits) went from 5 euros to 20 euros. Oh and we got a nice new vehicle tax (not a bad thing in of itself) that comes with a new registration tax that also applies retroactively to old cars if ownership is transferred (can be a couple hundred to a few thousand euros to transfer ownership of a car worth 500 for an example). And we’re STILL running a deficit, something Estonia didn’t really do in the past.
As a result, different government departments are always trying to save money whereever possible. That includes things like having more students per teacher so that fewer teachers need to be paid. And this is Estonia, our government debt is just under 25% of GDP. If you take for an example Belgium, a nation with much higher taxes, that also brings in tons of income from all the visiting MEPs who spend money there but get paid by their own governments… Their debt is over 100% of GDP. Finland is going to be over 100% too. There’s no set debt to GDP ratio that’s bad, but the higher the debt, the higher the interest payments.
Doctors being replaced with AI doesn’t mean they’re going to be all replaced at once, nor are they going to be explicitly “replaced” by AI like software engineers. Rather, individual doctors are going to be expected to do more because “you now have AI helping you”. Fewer young doctors will be hired because data will show that having X% fewer doctors of specialty Y per capita would result in only Z% fewer positive patient outcomes. Then in a few years, as AI tools get better, even fewer doctors will be needed. Etc. 2 years ago already we had an article here saying the national health insurance system found ways to save 21 million a year using “digital technologies and workforce reform”. They’re looking to either save another 100 million a year, or raise it via more taxation. Easiest way to do the former is to lay people off.
If it seems to you that I ever implied that AI is going to replace doctors and teachers WITHOUT affecting quality of care and education… Sorry, no, that’s not what I meant. I meant the savings are going to be so significant that government will do it despite the reduction in quality. It’ll be deemed as “good enough”.
Call me a pessimist or whatever, but one thing governments and corporations have in common is that they like cutting costs at the expense of the common folk.