There are a lot jobs that a computer simply cannot do, because they are not humans. Especially the ones that require human contact and interaction. Until we have a robot that can mimic a human those jobs are safe.
The jobs that require you to make calculations or provide input into a computer are most at risk.
And I know the companies are being taxed, that’s why I said let’s tax them.
I wonder what country’s workforce the MIT expert was talking about when he warned or AI replacing jobs.
You’re right though, they’re not replacing nurses with AI. They’re just eliminating the positions, forcing those who are left to pick up the extra work, and closing rural hospitals.
Nowhere does he or the article mention a country and “Gen Z” sounds like a pretty broad term, don’t you think? There are more places in the world besides the US.
And anyway, I’m not talking to him, I’m talking to you. And since AI exists outside the US as much as it does in the US, what I said applies to the entire world.
Okay, that’s great for everyone outside the US who aren’t going to be losing their jobs to AI.
Not sure if that’s much of a consolation to the literally millions of people in the US who are losing their jobs, or unable to even enter into the workforce.
And what are those people going to pay them with after everyone loses their jobs and small businesses are pushed out of the market taken over by corporate capture?
Uh the first two mostly just talk to people. Definitely getting replaced by a chatbot soon.
Teachers already use AI to create lesson plans and grade tests. There’s a huge push to use even more AI in schools. The human element of having a teacher present is valuable, but unfortunately not easily measurable in a short term study so I’m fairly sure teaching jobs will be axed. I mean you don’t have to get rid or every teacher, just increase class size 4x and you can already get rid of 75%.
Nurses, like I’ve mentioned before, will be there just to do the physical tasks. IVs, shots, etc. AI will decide what painkillers to administer, etc. Then nurses can be paid half as much and you’ll need half as many. Automate the meaningful part of the job, leave the easily trainable.
Lawyers are already using AI en masse. It’s resulting in loads of crap, but it won’t for much longer. Just need appropriate MCPs to validate citations. The issue at present is using a regular chat interface target than a tailored agent.
Diplomats (and similarly, CEOs) indeed can not be replaced. Those jobs require consuming alcohol with other parties at the negotiating table, which AI can’t do.
For most jobs, AI will just automate the thinking and decision making parts. Someone else needs to sign off and/or do the physical parts, but that means you can lay off most of the workforce and reduce the remaining part’s pay since the job is streamlined and unemployment is high.
The socialism was implied; the things going to shit for a lot of us part, I spelled out in multiple comments in this behemoth of a thread, though not explicitly in this exact chain, so let’s take a look.
With that context in mind, let’s go up directly in this comment chain:
You:
Except healthcare and education are also getting dismantled.
And the companies aren’t being taxed.
That other guy:
There are a lot jobs that a computer simply cannot do, because they are not humans. Especially the ones that require human contact and interaction. Until we have a robot that can mimic a human those jobs are safe. The jobs that require you to make calculations or provide input into a computer are most at risk.
And I know the companies are being taxed, that’s why I said let’s tax them.
To which I finally replied:
Can you name 5 jobs where human contact is strictly necessary and I’ll see if I can explain how AI will replace those people anyway?
I think you can see how I’m trying to point out to him that none of us is safe and we’re all beyond fucked, while he’s trying to claim “oh you can just work in healthcare or education”, not realizing those industries are also going to be disrupted by cost cuttings.
I’m not even going to link it here because it was super long, but I also explained in a more recent comment that it’s not my opinion that AI will do those jobs as good as a human or better. It’s that AI will be cheap and “good enough” and people can be laid of en masse.
Long story short (and this is something I didn’t explicitly mention in any of my other comments): I think human contact in social and health services is going to be a luxury in the future. Rich people will send their kids to private schools with good teachers, rest of us will have to send ours to public schools with AI doing most of the heavy lifting. Rich people will see a doctor in person, poor people will see someone significantly less training who uses AI as a diagnostic tool and only consults a real doctor when actually needed. Etc.
There are a lot jobs that a computer simply cannot do, because they are not humans. Especially the ones that require human contact and interaction. Until we have a robot that can mimic a human those jobs are safe. The jobs that require you to make calculations or provide input into a computer are most at risk.
And I know the companies are being taxed, that’s why I said let’s tax them.
Yes.
No.
You’re assuming corporations will wait until the robots are capable of replacing humans before replacing the humans with robots.
There’s still rules and shit. Maybe not in the US, but here you can’t simply replace a nurse with a dysfunctional robot. You need to prove it works.
I wonder what country’s workforce the MIT expert was talking about when he warned or AI replacing jobs.
You’re right though, they’re not replacing nurses with AI. They’re just eliminating the positions, forcing those who are left to pick up the extra work, and closing rural hospitals.
Nowhere does he or the article mention a country and “Gen Z” sounds like a pretty broad term, don’t you think? There are more places in the world besides the US.
And anyway, I’m not talking to him, I’m talking to you. And since AI exists outside the US as much as it does in the US, what I said applies to the entire world.
Okay, that’s great for everyone outside the US who aren’t going to be losing their jobs to AI.
Not sure if that’s much of a consolation to the literally millions of people in the US who are losing their jobs, or unable to even enter into the workforce.
No need to be so fatalistic. They can still do the more meaningful jobs where they work for people instead of a company.
And what are those people going to pay them with after everyone loses their jobs and small businesses are pushed out of the market taken over by corporate capture?
With money, like they did before, and before that, and before that… Didn’t I ask you to stop being so fatalistic?
Can you name 5 jobs where human contact is strictly necessary and I’ll see if I can explain how AI will replace those people anyway?
Social worker
Psychotherapist
Teacher
Nurse
Lawyer
Bonus: Diplomat
Uh the first two mostly just talk to people. Definitely getting replaced by a chatbot soon.
Teachers already use AI to create lesson plans and grade tests. There’s a huge push to use even more AI in schools. The human element of having a teacher present is valuable, but unfortunately not easily measurable in a short term study so I’m fairly sure teaching jobs will be axed. I mean you don’t have to get rid or every teacher, just increase class size 4x and you can already get rid of 75%.
Nurses, like I’ve mentioned before, will be there just to do the physical tasks. IVs, shots, etc. AI will decide what painkillers to administer, etc. Then nurses can be paid half as much and you’ll need half as many. Automate the meaningful part of the job, leave the easily trainable.
Lawyers are already using AI en masse. It’s resulting in loads of crap, but it won’t for much longer. Just need appropriate MCPs to validate citations. The issue at present is using a regular chat interface target than a tailored agent.
Diplomats (and similarly, CEOs) indeed can not be replaced. Those jobs require consuming alcohol with other parties at the negotiating table, which AI can’t do.
For most jobs, AI will just automate the thinking and decision making parts. Someone else needs to sign off and/or do the physical parts, but that means you can lay off most of the workforce and reduce the remaining part’s pay since the job is streamlined and unemployment is high.
Guys, I found Elon’s lemmy account
Yes, Elon for sure wants to tell everyone how the capitalists are replacing workers with AI and this isn’t going to end well without socialism.
Point to where you said anything about socialism?
It seems more like you were just saying "let’s replace all these jobs with AI because it’s going to happen either way…
The socialism was implied; the things going to shit for a lot of us part, I spelled out in multiple comments in this behemoth of a thread, though not explicitly in this exact chain, so let’s take a look.
Let’s start here
Me mentioning how much it sucks that we’re automating knowledge work while leaving around boring physical jobs
With that context in mind, let’s go up directly in this comment chain:
You:
That other guy:
To which I finally replied:
I think you can see how I’m trying to point out to him that none of us is safe and we’re all beyond fucked, while he’s trying to claim “oh you can just work in healthcare or education”, not realizing those industries are also going to be disrupted by cost cuttings.
I’m not even going to link it here because it was super long, but I also explained in a more recent comment that it’s not my opinion that AI will do those jobs as good as a human or better. It’s that AI will be cheap and “good enough” and people can be laid of en masse.
Long story short (and this is something I didn’t explicitly mention in any of my other comments): I think human contact in social and health services is going to be a luxury in the future. Rich people will send their kids to private schools with good teachers, rest of us will have to send ours to public schools with AI doing most of the heavy lifting. Rich people will see a doctor in person, poor people will see someone significantly less training who uses AI as a diagnostic tool and only consults a real doctor when actually needed. Etc.